Have you been exposed to harmful antisemitic tropes about Jewish control over finances or foreign policy? After participating in this course, how would you go about responding to these tropes if you encounter them? - Pathfinder

Have you been exposed to harmful antisemitic tropes about Jewish control over finances or foreign policy? After participating in this course, how would you go about responding to these tropes if you encounter them?

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    • #1449
      pathfinderlms
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    • #2717
      Jordan Karausky
      Participant

      I have been exposed to harmful antisemitic tropes like this. Now that I understand the tensions within the Truman administration, for example, I am much more equipped to answer skeptical or hostile challenges winsomely. Truman’s own anxiety to appease his electorate, coupled with pressure from the recently widowed Eleanor Roosevelt in the popular press, were singularly potent motivations for Truman’s decision to provisionally support Israel. This is a powerful objection to the common quibbles and slogans used to support the fiction of monolithic American support for Israel. Additionally, Israel’s need for French and Russian support where America’s was lacking is telling in that space. The course has given me the gift of a few pocketed answers to offer those who find themself convinced of a clandestine coercion or conspiracy.

      • #2969
        Sean Moore
        Participant

        This is a huge issue! It is so frustrating that we, despite having huge power, are no longer influential mostly because we are so disunited here at home. Countries don’t think that the American people can be consistent, especially when we are battling so many radical groups here at home. The growth of radicals has really hurt our country, it is the rot from within. We must stop the radicals from both the right and left, because they are hurting the country.

      • #2998

        Yes, for majority of my life I have also been exposed to antisemitic tropes about Jewish control over finances and foreign policy. I can see that this possibly stems from the fact that there is a large population of Jewish leaders that are in positions of power in the White House, and many of them are naturally pro-Israel. It is sad, however, that America is so polarized that Americans are allowing radicals on both sides of the political spectrum to inform them through conspiracy theories about the intentions of these powerful Jews and the influence that they have on American politics. A lot of these theories are unfortunately antisemitic and they are hurting our country and our role in the diplomatic process more than anything.

      • #3282
        Stevin Surajin
        Participant

        Well said Renita! I definitely think the issue of radicals in this nation, is a serious issue, since regardless of view, radicals from opposing sides have really split the nation into two due to their differing views, affecting everything from domestic issues to foreign policy. There is also a certain degree of antisemitism still visible in a lot of the views of the people who are also voicing their strong opinions, and I think a calculated effort to address this misinformation through public discourse and amicable discussion is necessary to combat this, not just for the wellbeing of our country, but also to address and bring about positive change in our nation’s affairs as well as the decisions that we make regarding foreign policy.

      • #3303
        Shawrath Anthony
        Participant

        Renita !

        I too like you have been exposed to antisemitic tropes about Jewish control over finances and foreign policy and how this could stem from the fact that there is a large population of Jewish leaders that are in powerful positions in the White House. It is also quite sad to see the lack of balance on this issue and how there is an increasing polarity on the issue of Israel. I hope in the coming days people take the time to research and study the issue for themselves without buying Into propaganda.

        Thank you for your contribution.

    • #2901
      Ilona Chebotareva
      Participant

      Unfortunately, I have been exposed to antisemitic tropes about Jewish control over finances or foreign policy. I appreciated Professor Mead’s perspective that believing in antisemetic tropes signal that one doesn’t understand the political or economic systems. After taking this course, my response will be to ask the person questions about the systems they are referencing and bring them to their own realization about how harmfully oversimplified the political and economic systems we live in.

      • #2983
        Sarah Victor
        Participant

        Yes, it’s true that the logic in our political economies are often oversimplified to the detriment of healthy conversation on ethnic and religious minorities, which has in turn resulted in great harm to Jews. This has been unfortunately the case throughout history and in a wide array of political systems. Our present context is not immune from this hate: in the US at the present moment we find antisemitism rising on both the right and left ends of the political spectrum.

      • #3474
        Alex Cevallos
        Participant

        I hear the antisemitic tropes regularly from Christians and non Christians. Some Christians do not think they are being evil or wrong when they say them because they believe in it. Mead made a great point about the Jews who lobbied to the White House to bomb the tracks in Germany that led to Auschwitz. Obviously at that point the Jews would have gotten their way if they truly controlled the government. George Washington wrote a letter to a Jewish Synagogue when he was President. That goes to show that the Jewish people have been ingrained in American society long before the Holocaust and still had no influence over the White House.

    • #2968
      Sean Moore
      Participant

      At this point, I think everyone has been exposed, at some point or time, to the tropes of the secret Jewish conspiracy that controls finances and the media. It is crazy that even after an event like the Holocaust, people still push these crazy conspiracies. It actually goes to show you that there is, in my opinion, some supernatural hate for Jews that has spanned thousands of years. More proof God exists.

      Anyway, the best way to dispute these claims is to point out the Jewish people are a far smaller group then the English, German, Irish, etc. If you want to look at different ethnic groups, Asian families are the most successful families in America. Also, I always remind people that the Jews have been hated for thousands of year, in whatever country they are in. When you point that out, most realize that they are not being rational when it comes to the amount of power one small group of people could have.

      • #3283
        Stevin Surajin
        Participant

        Sean,

        Agree with you. What is even more ironic is that it is common to see the advent of Holocaust deniers that has become a phenomenon. These ideas are usually followed by antisemitic sentiment, and are often used to rile up the masses. At a certain point, I had to take a step back and think if there was indeed some level of hatred that has been prevalent throughout for the Jewish people, and after studying history by myself, taking this course, and seeing comments similar to your, I have to say, there does indeed seem to be something of the sort!

    • #2981
      Sarah Victor
      Participant

      Yes, unfortunately like many people I have come across these tropes and have also spoken to people to push back on their faulty thought patterns. Strange because these ideas are not even internally consistent! If Jews really did control the world, why is antisemitism the religiously based hate crime with the greatest percentages in the United States, and also in numbers greatly disproportionate to the Jewish population? How could a systematic, long term catastrophe like the Holocaust have occurred? Why is the world’s only Jewish state the country with the most condemnations by the United Nations? In some situations, I have found people take statements they have heard as fact without thinking through it at all but when you push back, offering a different vantage point, they are forced to question their wrongful ideology – atleast initially to save face – but hopefully also on a more fundamental level. It is painful but important to also be there for your friends when they are confronted by these situations in real life to their face, which is also the case often these days.

    • #3281
      Stevin Surajin
      Participant

      Unfortunately, I have been exposed to harmful antisemitic tropes like a lot of other people have, and to some extent I think it is almost difficult not to, especially if someone is involved in learning about the world to some capacity or the other. This is something that has unfortunately been prevalent throughout the past few centuries. I believe a fair bit is due to the jealousy towards the success as well as bitter views regarding the way of the life of the Jewish people, and these have unfortunately extended well into the present day. In the modern day, I believe there is a false view by many that Israel has been excessively supported by foreign powers during its inception by the various world powers, but I am now understanding that it is not necessarily true. One event that I would speak about more, is the arms embargo established upon Israel by the Truman presidency, and how this resulted in Israel having to rely on the Soviets to rely on weapons to win the fight against their neighboring Arab countries.

      • #3302
        Shawrath Anthony
        Participant

        Stevin !

        I agree with you, it definitely is quite literally unavoidable to be exposed to antisemitism these days. I like that you pointed out the false view that the world has in regards to the support that Israel has with the western foreign powers. With the way our democracy works the wests support for Israel is always shake and dependent on who assumes office in the next elections.

        I also agree with your statement about the jealousy and bitter views people have towards the success of the Jewish state.

        Thankyou for your wonderful contribution.

    • #3301
      Shawrath Anthony
      Participant

      I believe that in the world we live in, in this day and age, we have all been exposed to antisemitism to a certain extent either through media or through different social movements. I think one of the biggest anti-Semitic lies we could believe is the idea that a secret jewish society controls the worlds most dominant political and financial institutions (those who believe this probably may not even know that this is antisemitic). Antisemitism these days has become very subtle and sneaky.

      I think the one way we can encounter these tropes is by personal education and research about the subject matter and by realizing, distinguishing truth from lies. I courses offered by the Philos Project does a wonderful job at this.
      I think after educating oneself it is important to engage in friendly and respectful dialogue with those that have different views on the matter or even with those that have no views at all.

      The truth will eventually win.

    • #2617
      Denise DeVatt
      Participant

      Abigail,
      Not sure if you have had the chance to go yet, but if you do, definitely go to Yad Vashem and look at some of the antisemitic thing that have been put out about the Jews since before the time of the Shoah. It will really help in identifying such things in the future as well. I have been to Yad Vashem quite a few times and every time I go, I see something else that I notice in modern-day talks about the Jewish people and the state of Israel that I hadn’t before. Thanks for your post!

    • #2719
      Jordan Karausky
      Participant

      I appreciate your contribution Abigail. I like that you pointed out our responsibility to pay attention to the way the current media chooses to portray Israel’s actions. When I was musing to myself about how to formulate winsome responses, I kept picturing the conversation being one on one, but this is often not the case. Often times we have to respond to popular articles and news stories, which begs the question, how to we pay attention to the evolution of the situation while maintaining our ability to answer questions with evidence? It seems daunting if you find yourself on a campus like my alma mater, whose staunch support of Palestine is often confused with a staunch opposition to Israel. In any case I pray that we would be like Christ when we address these topics!

      Thanks for the stimulating comment!

    • #2718
      Jordan Karausky
      Participant

      Hi Sarah!
      I envy you for that! I have been in dialogue with many people who believe in a secret Jewish control of finance and American foreign policy, and it has been very disheartening on occasion. I entirely agree that we must respond calmly with the truth, but it can be quite a challenge. I have been loudly and slowly informed that the Jewish control of media is ruining the world. It can be shocking to see open antisemitism up close. I just pray that we can be like Jesus if we face that sort opposition in the future!

    • #2970
      Sean Moore
      Participant

      So true Jordan. You just have to remain calm and point to facts. Most of the time, these types of people are just repeating what they hear. So if you can bring facts and show them, they may repeat you. While I wish more Americans were critical thinkers, they should atleast repeat the truth. We need more people to worry about the big issues, or at the very least have better politicians who actually deal with these issues rather then trying to build a personality cult for themselves.

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